Spam ruin in between. How about when you have no stacks of Aetherflow to use? I never really played it before. Think the new Summoner Job skills could have the Summoner take the form of a Primal, based on the current Egi they have summoned (kinda like a fusion, which combines the Summoner's Aether, and the Egi's essence to create the complete form of the primal, and the summoner can play as a primal as long as they have MP. Aetherflow on single targets should be spent on Fester. SMN isn't really a rotation, it's a priority system. Commenting to reference, thanks for the good write up. While it can feel underwhelming to only hit Ruin for 300 damage, pay attention and you'll see your DoT ticks adding up to 800+ every three seconds... That's quite a chunk right there. I know this thread is old but thank you so much for this. This video thoroughly explains how to play Samurai in my own personal experience and should NOT be stated as optimal. PIE increases our Maximum MP at a rate of 7.25 MP per point at level 50. First off, thank you so much for the insight. FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner; Guide; AoE; Pages in this Guide. Unlike previous iterations of Summoner where DWT would be used at least once per minute, in Shadowbringers there will only be 1 DWT every 2 minutes due to it sharing a cooldown with Firebird Trance (FBT). Hi there, I was actually on voice call with the tank you were running with at the time ;) I'm her boyfriend xD. Summoner Body: iLevel 50-59 ... Req. Snickers085 7 years ago #4. Pace yourself when using abilities so you don't burn out your power, and be helpful to the party by Swift-Resurrecting downed members - Resurrection is expensive and healers need all the MP they can get. I notice you did not mention Fester, which is your hardest hitting DPS ability, so make sure to use that on single target. Apply Bio and Miasma to one enemy and use Bane to spread it. My brother keeps dying over and over and over from it. Level 38 Defense 35 Magic Defense 69 Mind +9 Intelligence +9 Spell Speed +14 Piety +5 Vitality +9 Storm Sergeant's Bliaud 41: All Classes Req. You want to re-up your aetherflow on cooldown. While rotation plays a big part, (and other ppl gave tips and guides on it) it could be that your equipments are too outdated (since you said you went into 1 1/2 year hiatus) while other outgeared the dungeon thus the big differences in dps. 50-60 Rotation Starting at Lv. Groups, use Bane before Fester. If you're running Garuda-Egi, Shockwave's knockback effect WILL disrupt the tank's attempts to keep control of the fight - they can't exactly hit things with a sword or axe if that thing is suddenly halfway across the room. Lv 50, 60 and 70 mark different "strategies" as Summoner as far as I'm concerned. I really like that rotation for cycling perfectly into an endless stream, which makes a lot of fun. Auto attack and maybe a basic skill wouldn't cost MP.) save. I'm gonna try my lvl 50 smn. It felt super underwhelming in damage, did I miss something with it? Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Snickers085 7 years ago #2. Read guides and practice to really get it down, but the above gives enough info to get a good stretch of the way there. Try to make sure they stay up all the time. Will leveling an arcanist level both of them up simultaneously? Req. In both cases, it's about control. Lv. Pages in category "Summoner Exclusive" The following 121 pages are in this category, out of 121 total. So, unless your gears are totally left behind or you didnt use other skills especially fester, you should be able to do okay dps (since spell speed buff affects dots too now). At Lv60, I have yet to really come up with a proper rotation, but an important thing to keep in mind is to be careful with Tri-Disaster. Also make sure to use Ifrit and Garuda's base aoe damage skills (on Obey, just gotta click em), Speaking of the pets, always make sure to put up their buffs too. Mind you that I'm not a Summoner Main, but from what I can observe: - From 60 to 68, yes, you will have quite a bit of downtime for Aetherflow. You'll get there :). Control your pet (I've seen plenty of people leaving their pet attacking a boss while it's invulnerable...) and keep your DoTs up at all times. 100% Upvoted. should be your "filler" move. Just remember to keep DoT effects up at all times. As for your pet, there are some important things to know. 52 … Pages in category "Summoner Quest" The following 26 pages are in this category, out of 26 total. Whats the best deeps rotation and cross class skills end game? Last but not least of these reminders, always logout at a sanctuary. User Info: Snickers085. I am currently still lvl 50 and could really really need some help on how my rotation should be >-<. If I may take a little more of your time with a couple more questions: I've been told Garuda is too weak compared to Ifrit and never to use it, I actually got yelled at by a tank over this in an earlier dungeon...should I be having Garuda? SMN has an opening rotation, and there are a lot of guides for that (and I'm not sure how it changed for 51+), but remember that it's a dot class. The FFXIV Samurai is a fantastic DPS Job to switch to. Starting with "A Realm Reborn" and the expansions include "Heavensward", "Stormblood", and "Shadowbringers"! Something in this kind of format would be soooooo helpful: Thank you so much in advance, I'm terrible at learning things via pictures, symbols, even videos. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Reapply as needed though this is rare. Energy Drain my friend, it's your friend too. Persistence is important as well as patience and the ability to judge yourself to find out where you can improve. Still, there is a only a few "guides" for lvl 70 Summoners, and most of the ones find make me go "WTF? You gain rested EXP in these areas! In these boxes, I’ll put info that you’ll likely be referring to (or discovering) while leveling up your Arcanist. Feels like it deals 0 dmg...), See this thread for a great writeup on Summoner in the new expansion: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3bqlgx/the_30_summoner_an_extensive_guide_by_hai_hai/. If you started FFXIV as a tank or healer, and want yourself a high-level DPS, this might be the top pick. (0) et här är en sång om ingenting så alla bratz kan hoppa omkring e på klubben, dricker skumpa och alla brudar tar på min rumpa det här är en sång om ingenting så alla bratz kan hoppa omkring o i baren shotar vi jäger för att visa vem som äger. You have three stacks of Aetherflow to play with every minute. Since it's a placeable group DOT make ample use of it in groups, even bosses if Slow works on them. I find Tri-Disaster is best used in the middle of Dreadwyrm Trance, since you have a limited amount of time (and you want to spam Ruin III as much as possible) and you get the damage boost on them too. In this episode, I do the level 50 Summoner quest earning the ability Enkindle. Practice and have patience. NEVER Sic. I have written research here in my room.. it’s time to update before 3.0!! ", like the one you find at the top of internet searches, which suggests to cast contagion AFTER applying dots (They apparently haven't thoroughly read the 4.0 patchnotes) and SWIFTCAST Ruin ll as much as possible! I tried having Outburst alot when I first unlocked it. When all dot's are up, and fester is on cooldown/you don't have aetherflow, spam Ruin as a filler. Contagion then leaves your damage-boosted DoT effects to last much longer. Pages in category "Summoner Weapon/iLevel 50-59" The following 10 pages are in this category, out of 10 total. Here's the content you guys know me for. Start the game as Conjurer (into White Mage), or Arcanist (into Scholar). Summoner Guide 5.4 FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner AoE. Starting with "A Realm Reborn" and the expansions include "Heavensward", "Stormblood", and "Shadowbringers"! I'm assuming you simply DoT one and bane again. Keep your dots up always, use Ruin II only when you need to be on the move (its no stronger than Ruin and eats more MP.). In terms of your own buffs (Raging and Quelling), make sure to use them to effectively increase your DOT damage as well as your Fester. Use up your aetherflow stacks on fester (single target) or bane to spread dots around before the aetherflow cooldown Is up and immediately use that when it is. Requirements: Level 50 DoW or DoM; Aetheryte -> Aethernet: New players wanting to play AST asap will have to take a bit of a detour. Max MP also affects MP refresh rates inside and outside of battle, roughly 2% per tic in battle. If you can be in melee range, do that and smack it with your book while you spam ruin 2. Use your main damage dealer when all else is covered. Are these ideal? Below item level 50, these weapons can generally be used by either a Arcanist, Summoner or Scholar, although there are a few exceptions. Loyalist's Bliaud 40: Disciples of Magic Req. Can someone pls list the level 50 smn rotation. Be very careful to ensure that Garuda's Contagion has taken effect before you use Bane, otherwise you won't get the 15s extension on the other targets. Always, ALWAYS keep your pet on 'Obey' so you can control what they're doing as well. I like to start groups as such; Shadow Flare (Swiftcasted preferably) -> Dots -> Bane -> Fester main target (Pretty much same as single target from here on), With groups, don't ignore the skill Enkindle either. DoctorRPG 7 years ago #1. It might surprise you to learn that even if I took off my Crystal and ran as a plain old Arcanist, I was keeping up with - and often exceeding - the damage output of everyone in an entire 24-man alliance. In the rotation it is used in the following ways: the initial opener & specific encounter reopeners Reply . … I really just want to play a Scholar, but I wouldn't mind having a 50 Summoner too. DO NOT open with it, as you may find yourself pulling aggro from the tank before they can secure it. How should you handle DoT reapplication in groups? I usually throw it in right before a boss goes invulnerable, or when an enemy is about to die, but for general spamming, just plain old Ruin is fine. User Info: jumpy. It's useful for aoe damage from both Ifrit and Garuda, Titan's being more for tanking stuff. New comments cannot be posted and votes … Friends, I just hit level 50, and was wondering the best way to get the most out of my deeps? As you gradually improve, however, you have the potential to be the most powerful class in the game. First question of the day since you mained on SCH for so long; did you do any of your SMN quests? FFXIV Guild says: May 27, 2015 at 11:40 pm . Need help figuring out the best rotation to get back in the swing of things. And if Garuda-Egi decides to use Contagion before you've even set up your DoTs then it's completely wasted. "But doing this would mess up the flexibility of the Summoner rotation in high-level play!" Use your pet command skills. Speaking of Ruin 2, I noticed you didn't mention it, and said to use Ruin 1? Ah, okay. Hello, I've tried looking at guides and whatnot but most stuff is outdated or for level 80 summoners. I just recently returned to the game from a 1 1/2 year hiatus and used to main Scholar but I remembered how much I hated questing on it and I also didn't feel confident healing after such a long break so I switched to Summoner. After this, bosses can vary wildly so it becomes very situational. He told me that I need to use "sicfrit" at all times or quit being sunmoner :/. Use Painflare to spend aetherflow (you get this at 52. Group Fights; As before, All three dots go up first. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. There's no point in Ifrit-Egi setting up a Radiant Shield on everyone in the last second of battle. This thread is archived. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Levelling Up; 4 Openers; 5 Rotation; 6 Pets; 7 Demi-Summons; 8 AoE; 9 Role Actions; 10 How To Improve; AoE. You definitely want to be on Obey at all times. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong when I'm doing that and I think it's because I'm not used to the idea of my main source of damage coming from DoTs instead of direct damage dealing spells (like Ruin or any other spell like it). South Thalanan is a level 25-50 area, Info above incorrect, you will not get level 20 leves from Little Ala Mhigo. Yet what is a god to one man is a demon to another, for the city-states of Eorzea see these beings as a grave threat to their collective survival. My cross class skills are: Internal Release Foresight Feather Foot Blood Bath and Fracture. Thanks. So keep them in mind. Fester at 50 is the king of SMN's single target damage and should be used effectively. report. User Info: Snickers085. This is a legitimate observation. Helps to even out your MP till your next Aetherflow is up and running. I jsut ran Wanderers Palace (Hard) with a really nice group who gave me lots of tips but apparently I deal less DPS than even the healer LOL Needless to say, this could turn into a huuuuge problem on stronger dps checks. I want you to focus on this as a goal if you are playing Summoner as an alt job or just picking it up from scratch starting at level 70 . Hey all, my summoner hit level 80 because I levelled up my scholar and I figured I may as well use it, but I can’t get the rotation down. Teach you how to mix up this flow when needed and analyze what your options are at each position in your rotation. How to unlock the ACN Class?. Making sure your dots NEVER fall off (but don't overlap either) and keep shadowflare down. FFXIV samurai's rotation is pretty simple at level 50 since you don't have access to your Kenki gauge yet. I did this very quickly back in the first week/s of the game. There's nothing worse than having to manually set up DoT effects on enemies one by one because you used one too many Festers and didn't have a Bane to spend. It's best to use Aetherflow on Fester for single target, and Painflare for AoE. Pace yourself well. Yes, all 3 jobs level together. My Level 70 SMN rotation Public. I'm like "Nope". So remember; Dots are your friends. Enkindle is your Egi’s signature ability and is best used on cooldown especially for multiple targets. You can then throw in Fester and later Painflare - but pace yourself. The Samurai starts at level 50. Atm on normal mobs when soloing I just use my 3 dots once and then keep using ruin2 until it is dead._. Spreading that 800+ damage to multiple enemies is what really gets your dps up, and especially now in Heavensward, with Bane affecting ALL nearby enemies (albeit at half power after the fourth), your damage quickly snowballs. It will likely take some getting used to but so long as you remember the key points, you will be able to effectively down anything in your path (Also at 60 we're unstoppable AOE machines with Deathflare. Aah I use quest gear, I am currently up to iceheart dungeon! Firstly, ALWAYS set your pet to Obey. This is a guide about the basics of a summoner and understanding their rotation. I'm assuming you're supposed to take time to manually reapply all 3 DoTs to each target. Level 38 Defense 59 Magic Defense 118 Intelligence +14 Vitality +15 Direct Hit Rate +22 Determination +10 Cannot equip gear to head. In general priorities go as such at level 50: Put up DoTs unless enemies will die shortly. You rmain goal is for these skills to be capped at 2 charges as little as possible. Use your Aetherflow. What you should be doing once you've done your setup. If you burn them all early on, you will find yourself powerless later. SMN has some of the biggest damage potential in the game. Ruin II costs double MP for little gain. I very much notice every comment and … share. Starting with Cross class skills, Raging Strikes, Quelling Strikes, Swiftcast are three major players. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. For some it's just not their style, but for many it's just too much to handle. The only requirement is having a level 50 Disciple of War or Disciple of Magic leveled. Just saying :P). Press J to jump to the feed. Opening with the same rotation as above will cause your damage to build up a little more slowly, giving the tank ample time to get thing secure. In the past, Summoner has been much less mobile because it required long periods of standing still and casting Ruin 3 back-to-back - which is currently only a short portion of our r… Everything I’ve searched for is telling me to weave my egi assaults, but they must have been changed them to gcd’s before I got my hands on summoner. SMN's maximum MP affects how much MP we get back through Aetherflow, as Aetherflow restores MP equal to 20% of our max MP. Use Fester till then). But if I read it once, I'll remember it for life <3. The initial setup phase gets your DoT effects up quickly. I just want to make sure I'm helping my team by doing damage properly so could any other summoners out there TYPE out the order in which I should be rotating my skills? You know it’s about time i reviewed this. I find this gets the best use out of Raging Strikes, because you get two Festers and you should have just enough time to reset the DoTs before it runs out. Summoner is currently a highly mobile caster that follows a repeating cycle of about 2 minutes of different types of casting. :O Summoner Rotation Guide: Understanding The Basics (50 Guide) Guide in ' Disciples of Magic ' published by Ivy, Jan 7, 2016. The rotation he lists in the second part of that guide is pretty much what you want at 50, minus the new skills. I tend to prefer Ifrit too, as he gets auto-attacks (whereas Garuda doesn't) and Radiant Shield is very useful for a little extra damage. The requirements are having a disciple or magic or war at level 50. SMN isn't really a rotation, it's a priority system. User Info: DoctorRPG. A lot of people will Swiftcast Shadow Flare, but I find it wasteful since you've already set up your main source of damage and it's only 0.5s extra cast time anyway. 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